Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”

The recent paper in Geosciences , “Understanding the Permafrost−Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf” by Shakhova, Semiletov, and Chuvilin, (henceforth “S2019”), contains a number of false statements about our 2016 paper, “Methane fluxes from the sea to th...

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Published in:Geosciences
Main Authors: Brett F. Thornton, Marc C. Geibel, Patrick M. Crill, Christoph Humborg, Carl-Magnus Mörth
Format: Article in Journal/Newspaper
Language:English
Published: MDPI AG 2019
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Online Access:https://doi.org/10.3390/geosciences9090384
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spelling ftdoajarticles:oai:doaj.org/article:27d91ce61c2e475b8743345306e4f507 2023-05-15T14:49:39+02:00 Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf” Brett F. Thornton Marc C. Geibel Patrick M. Crill Christoph Humborg Carl-Magnus Mörth 2019-09-01T00:00:00Z https://doi.org/10.3390/geosciences9090384 https://doaj.org/article/27d91ce61c2e475b8743345306e4f507 EN eng MDPI AG https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/9/9/384 https://doaj.org/toc/2076-3263 2076-3263 doi:10.3390/geosciences9090384 https://doaj.org/article/27d91ce61c2e475b8743345306e4f507 Geosciences, Vol 9, Iss 9, p 384 (2019) methane East Siberian Arctic Shelf laptev sea East Siberian Sea methane hydrates Geology QE1-996.5 article 2019 ftdoajarticles https://doi.org/10.3390/geosciences9090384 2022-12-31T11:14:58Z The recent paper in Geosciences , “Understanding the Permafrost−Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf” by Shakhova, Semiletov, and Chuvilin, (henceforth “S2019”), contains a number of false statements about our 2016 paper, “Methane fluxes from the sea to the atmosphere across the Siberian shelf seas”, (henceforth “T2016”). S2019 use three paragraphs of section 5 of their paper to claim methodological errors and issues in T2016. Notably they claim that in T2016, we systematically removed data outliers including data with high methane concentrations; this claim is false. While we appreciate that flawed methodologies can be a problem in any area of science, in this case, the claims made in S2019 are simply false. In this comment, we detail the incorrect claims made in S2019 regarding T2016, and then discuss some additional problematic aspects of S2019. Article in Journal/Newspaper Arctic East Siberian Sea laptev Laptev Sea permafrost Directory of Open Access Journals: DOAJ Articles Arctic Laptev Sea East Siberian Sea ENVELOPE(166.000,166.000,74.000,74.000) Geosciences 9 9 384
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topic methane
East Siberian Arctic Shelf
laptev sea
East Siberian Sea
methane hydrates
Geology
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East Siberian Arctic Shelf
laptev sea
East Siberian Sea
methane hydrates
Geology
QE1-996.5
Brett F. Thornton
Marc C. Geibel
Patrick M. Crill
Christoph Humborg
Carl-Magnus Mörth
Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”
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East Siberian Arctic Shelf
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methane hydrates
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description The recent paper in Geosciences , “Understanding the Permafrost−Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf” by Shakhova, Semiletov, and Chuvilin, (henceforth “S2019”), contains a number of false statements about our 2016 paper, “Methane fluxes from the sea to the atmosphere across the Siberian shelf seas”, (henceforth “T2016”). S2019 use three paragraphs of section 5 of their paper to claim methodological errors and issues in T2016. Notably they claim that in T2016, we systematically removed data outliers including data with high methane concentrations; this claim is false. While we appreciate that flawed methodologies can be a problem in any area of science, in this case, the claims made in S2019 are simply false. In this comment, we detail the incorrect claims made in S2019 regarding T2016, and then discuss some additional problematic aspects of S2019.
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author Brett F. Thornton
Marc C. Geibel
Patrick M. Crill
Christoph Humborg
Carl-Magnus Mörth
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Marc C. Geibel
Patrick M. Crill
Christoph Humborg
Carl-Magnus Mörth
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title Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”
title_short Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”
title_full Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”
title_fullStr Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”
title_full_unstemmed Comment on “Understanding the Permafrost–Hydrate System and Associated Methane Releases in the East Siberian Arctic Shelf”
title_sort comment on “understanding the permafrost–hydrate system and associated methane releases in the east siberian arctic shelf”
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